22LR ammo for BOB and GHB

When SHTF and you head for the hills, or for home,
you will wish to avoid people who might rob or kill you or worse.
Some prefer the Marlin Papoose (stored in 24" case),or AR-7
(16.5" stored in stock). My Marlin 725 bolt 22LR is 41" OAL,
stock 29", barreled action 28-1/2", held together with one screw.
I installed a large knob on that screw and can easily (dis)assemble
the rifle.
Some use high-velocity ammo at about 3 cents a shot which can be heard
at a distance. I prefer 22LR subsonic ammo 7 cents a shot as it is very quiet.
In the video the 10-22 shooter uses high-velocity. The other man shoots
subsonic. Listen carefuly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28ppdbert34

A python killed in Everglades.

Florida F&G killed a 16 foot python that had eaten a 76 lb deer.
Python is not native to America. I wonder if there are others in the
Everglades. Were they released maliciously, or by an idiot not
capable of grasping the ramifications of introducing snakes that
grow to 16 feet and eat critters as large as your children?


http://tinyurl.com/7zevyfq

Lest we forget

Interesting Veterans Statistics off the Vietnam Memorial Wall - SOMETHING to think about.
Most of the surviving Parents are now Deceased.
There are 58,267 names now listed on that polished black wall, including those added in 2010.
The names are arranged in the order in which they were taken from us by date and within each date the names are alphabetized. It is hard to believe it is 36 years since the last casualties.
Beginning at the apex on panel 1E and going out to the end of the East wall, appearing to recede into the earth (numbered 70E - May 25, 1968), then resuming at the end of the West wall, as the wall emerges from the earth (numbered 70W - continuing May 25, 1968) and ending with a date in 1975. Thus the war's beginning and end meet. The war is complete, coming full circle, yet broken by the earth that bounds the angle's open side and contained within the earth itself.
The first known casualty was Richard B. Fitzgibbon, of North Weymouth, MA. Listed by the U.S. Department of Defense as having been killed on June 8, 1956. His name is listed on the Wall with that of his son, Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Richard B. Fitzgibbon III, who was killed on Sept. 7, 1965. There are three sets of fathers and sons on the Wall.
39,996 on the Wall were just 22 or younger...8,283 were just 19 years old.
The largest age group, 33,103 were 18 years old...12 soldiers on the Wall were 17 years old...5 soldiers on the Wall were 16 years old...One soldier, PFC Dan Bullock, was 15 years old.
997 soldiers were killed on their first day in Vietnam ...1,448 soldiers were killed on their last day in Vietnam.
31 sets of brothers are on the Wall. Thirty one sets of parents lost two of their sons.
54 soldiers once attended Thomas Edison High School in Philadelphia. I wonder why so many from one school? 8 Women are on the Wall. Nursing the wounded.
244 soldiers were awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War; 153 of them are on the Wall.
Beallsville, OH, with a population of 475, lost 6 of her sons. West Virginia had the highest casualty rate per capita in the nation. There are 711 West Virginians on the Wall.
The Marines of Morenci: They led some of the scrappiest high school football and basketball teams that the little Arizona copper town of Morenci (pop. 5,058) had ever known and cheered. They enjoyed roaring beer busts. In quieter moments, they rode horses along the Coronado Trail, stalked deer in the Apache National Forest. And in the patriotic camaraderie typical of Morenci's mining families, the nine graduates of Morenci High enlisted as a group in the Marine Corps. Their service began on Independence Day, 1966. Only 3 returned home.
The Buddies of Midvale: LeRoy Tafoya, Jimmy Martinez, Tom Gonzales were all boyhood friends and lived on three consecutive streets in Midvale, Utah, on Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Avenues. They lived only a few yards apart. They played ball at the adjacent sandlot ball field. And they all went to Vietnam. In a span of 16 dark days in late 1967, all three would be killed.
LeRoy was killed on Wednesday, Nov. 22, the fourth anniversary of John F. Kennedy's assassination. Jimmy died less than 24 hours later on Thanksgiving Day. Tom was shot dead assaulting the enemy on Dec. 7, Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day.
The most casualty deaths for a single day was on January 31, 1968 ~ 245 deaths. The most casualty deaths for a single month was May 1968 - 2,415 casualties were incurred.
Most Americans who read this will only see the numbers that the Vietnam War created. To those of us who survived the war, and to the families of those who did not, we see the faces, we feel the pain that these numbers created. We are, until we too pass away, haunted with these numbers, because they were our friends, fathers, husbands, wives, sons and daughters.
"There are no noble wars, just noble Warriors."

Semper Fi Ave atque vale

Justin Allen 23,
Brett Linley 29,
Matthew Weikert 29,
Justus Bartett 27,
Dave Santos 21,
Jesse Reed 26,
Matthew Johnson 21,
Zachary Fisher 24,
Brandon King 23,
Christopher Goeke 26
and Sheldon Tate 27...
are all Marines who gave their lives this week
for you. There is no media for them; not even
a mention of their names.

Stop online piracy

Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act
The Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA), also known as H.R.3261, is a bill that was introduced in the United States House of Representatives on October 26, 2011, by Representative Lamar Smith [R-TX] and a bipartisan group of 12 initial co-sponsors. The bill expands the ability of U.S. law enforcement and copyright holders to fight online trafficking in copyrighted intellectual property and counterfeit goods.[3] Now before the House Judiciary Committee, it builds on the similar PRO-IP Act of 2008 and the corresponding Senate bill, the Protect IP Act.[4]

more...........

Obama pushing shooters (and hunters) off public land.

Obama Pushing Shooters Off Public Lands
November 16, 2011 RSS Feed Print
http://tinyurl.com/6wwtsp8

excerpt
Gun owners who have historically been able to use public lands for target practice would be barred from potentially millions of acres under new rules drafted by the Interior Department, the first major move by the Obama administration to impose limits on firearms.

Officials say the administration is concerned about the potential clash between gun owners and encroaching urban populations who like to use same land for hiking and dog walking.

anti-Muslim gun instructor may lose license says TX DPS

http://tinyurl.com/3rpwbuv
(listen to radio ad)

A wildly popular clip shows Texas handgun

instructor Crockett Keller coolly informing

listeners that Muslims and Barack Obama

supporters are not welcome at his firearms

classes.

"If you are a socialist liberal and/or voted

for the current campaigner in chief, please

do not take this class," Keller says in the ad.

"You've already proven that you cannot make

a knowledgeable and prudent decision as

required under the law. Also, if you are a

non-Christian Arab or Muslim, I will not

teach you this class. Once again, with no

shame, I am Crockett Keller."

Muslim wins discrimination suit vs school

http://tinyurl.com/3tczfhh

excerpt

Public School Dist. To Pay Muslim

Over Mecca Trip

A public school district in the U.S. must pay a Muslim
teacher tens of thousands of dollars and establish a
religious accommodation training program for refusing
to let the instructor take three weeks off to make a
pilgrimage to Mecca.

The settlement marks the conclusion of the first lawsuit
filed by Obama’s Department of Justice (DOJ) as part
of a pilot program designed to ensure “vigorous enforcement”
of civil rights in the workplace. “Employees should not
have to choose between practicing their religion and their
jobs,” said Thomas Perez, the open borders advocate
Obama appointed as Assistant Attorney General for
the DOJ’s Civil Rights Division.

US forces out of Iraq this year

Obama says all US troops will be out of Iraq by
the end of the year except 160 or so to guard
US embassy Baghdad.

http://tinyurl.com/3cxzva5

Call for Holder to resign

http://tinyurl.com/3sq5e65

I have just sent the letter below to all of Montana's
congressional delegation, Senators Baucus and Tester,
and Representative Rehberg.

Gary

========================

Honorable Firstname Lastname
United States Senate/House
Washington, D.C.

Dear Senator/Representative;

I am sure you are aware of the blistering letter sent on
October 10, 2011 by House Oversight and Government
Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa to Attorney
General Eric Holder, documenting in great detail the
Department of Justice’s shameful scandal, the “Fast and
Furious” gun running case.

(Letter here)
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/10/10/issa-to-holder-you-own-fast-and-furious/

Attorney General Holder’s misconduct or incompetence
is clearly laid out in that letter, and several members of
Congress have already called for Attorney General Holder to resign.

As Montana's leading advocates for safe and legal gun
ownership and use, the Montana Shooting Sports Association
finds Attorney General Holder’s conduct to be proof of his
unfitness for continued service in that office.

In addition, we believe that the “Fast and Furious” program
had an intended goal of creating excuses to implement
additional gun control schemes to infringe on our Second
Amendment rights.

Therefore MSSA asks that you immediately and publicly
call for Attorney General Holder to resign, and that you
support further investigation to pursue appropriate criminal
charges if warranted.

I look forward to reporting to our members and supporters
that you have called for Holder’s resignation.

Thank you for your continued support of Montana’s law-
abiding gun owners.

Sincerely,

Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
http://www.mtssa.org
author, Gun Laws of Montana
http://www.mtpublish.com

10-22 with bolt lock fired bolt action or semiauto

http://www.silencerresearch.com/jg_bolt_lock.htm

These folks invented a bolt lock for 10-22,. You may use
it bolt action or semiauto mode. That is a wonderful idea.
I trained my sons and grandson with bolt action 22 rifle.
It is much safer as the beginning shooter must consciously
eject fired case and chamber a new round.

Save ammo with pull-bolt SKS

http://www.okiegunsmithshop.com/lvl25.html (many rifles)

http://tinyurl.com/686z35p (SKS only)


To make SKS a pullbolt
See disassembled SKS
Remove gas piston (part 1) from inside gas
tube (part 2).
Replace gas tube.
(If you do not replace gas tube, gas from gas
port can blow your eyes out.)
Make every shot count.
Ammo is limited.
One shot kills them dead.
Save ammo.
Kill the wounded enemy with a hammer or ax.
PS ALWAYS TURN KNUCKLES DOWN.
If knuckles up and you get a slamfire
the bolt handle will relocate your thumb
3 inches closer to your elbow.

Big Brother doesn't give a damn what laws the State may pass

http://www.nssf.org/share/PDF/ATFOpenLetter092111.pdf

quote from BATFE BigBrothergram
"....any person who uses or is addicted to marijuana, regardless of
whether his or her State has passed legislation authorizing
marijuana for medicinal purposes, is an unlawful user of or
addicted to a controlled substance, and is prohibited by
Federal law from possessing firearms or ammunition."

Stevens model 87B 22LR rifle

This rifle is no longer made. Maybe I can find a gunsmith
to install the bolt lock on my 10-22.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnNtGhoTfa8&NR=1 It may be operated as bolt action or semi-auto. Shooters who learn with bolt action are careful shooters who do not waste ammo.

I'll tell you again. Get v-bar tire chains. Winter is coming.

Vehicles with v-bar tire chains can drive on snow, ice and mud
when others cannot move.
Video shows how to install chains
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy7PgJRKlX8

Even the challenged, maybe even a member of congress, can sharpen a knife with Accusharp.

Here is a page of Accusharp products
http://accusharp.com/products/index.html

After a few years even Accusharp blades dull.
Store new tungsten carbide blades inside the handle of each sharpener.
http://accusharp.com/products/003/index.html

I have a 001 sharpener in the kitchen, one
on a dummy cord attached inside the packsack that
lives in my 4x4, and have given several to those I care about.
http://accusharp.com/products/001/index.html

The AccuSharp Dual Blade Turboslide Knife.
This tool combines the functionality of a sport
folding knife with the usefulness of a utility knife.
And this utility knife is designed with a quick change
mechanism to simplify changing the razor blade.
It also comes with five replacement blades for your
convenience. Constructed of anodized aluminum and
stainless steel, this tool is built for years of rust free
use and comes with a lifetime warranty. A carabiner
clip is also enclosed on the knife to keep it close by and handy.
http://accusharp.com/products/706/index.html

Some plastic bottles are unsafe for drinking water

http://tinyurl.com/3e2dkh6 Which plastic water bottles don't leach chemicals? by Vreni Gurd | Thu, 03/29/2007 excerpt Choose your water bottles very carefully in order to prevent chemicals in the plastic from leaching into your water. Plastic water bottles are very convenient for carting water around when we are on the go, as they don't break if we drop them. However, it is worth paying attention to the type of plastic your water bottle is made of, to ensure that the chemicals in the plastic do not leach into the water. If you taste plastic, you are drinking it, so get yourself another bottle. To be certain that you are choosing a bottle that does not leach, check the recycling symbol on your bottle. If it is a #2 HDPE (high density polyethylene), or a #4 LDPE (low density polyethylene), or a #5 PP (polypropylene), your bottle is fine. The type of plastic bottle in which water is usually sold is usually a #1, and is only recommended for one time use. Do not refill it. Better to use a reusable water bottle, and fill it with your own filtered water from home and keep these single-use bottles out of the landfill. Unfortunately, those fabulous colourful hard plastic lexan bottles made with polycarbonate plastics and identified by the #7 recycling symbol, may leach BPA. Bisphenol A is a xenoestrogen, a known endocrine disruptor, meaning it disturbs the hormonal messaging in our bodies. Synthetic xenoestrogens are linked to breast cancer and uterine cancer in women, decreased testosterone levels in men, and are particularly devastating to babies and young children. BPA has even been linked to insulin resistance and Type 2 Diabetes. For more of the science on the effects of BPA on our endocrine system etc. see these studies: Environmental Health Perspectives Journal. Nalgene, the company that manufactures the lexan water bottles also makes #2 HDPE bottles in the same sizes and shapes, so we have a viable alternative. Order one at Nalgene. Unfortunately, most plastic baby bottles and drinking cups are made with plastics containing Bisphenol A. In 2006 Europe banned all products made for children under age 3 containing BPA, and as of Dec. 2006 the city of San Franscisco followed suit. In March 2007 a billion-dollar class action suit was commenced against Gerber, Playtex, Evenflo, Avent, and Dr. Brown's in Los Angeles superior court for harm done to babies caused by drinking out of baby bottles and sippy cups containing BPA. So, to be certain that your baby is not exposed, use glass bottles. end excerpt

Is drug testing welfare applicants unconstitutional?

http://tinyurl.com/3j62eta

Drug testing welfare applicants unconstitutional?
excerpt
Under a new Florida law, people applying for welfare have
to take a drug test at their own expense. If they pass, they
are eligible for benefits and the state reimburses them for
the test. If they fail, they are denied welfare for a year, until
they take another test.

Mandatory drug testing for welfare applicants is becoming
a popular idea across the U.S. Many states - including Alabama,
Kentucky, Oklahoma and Louisiana - are considering adopting
laws like Florida's. At the federal level, Senator David Vitter, a
Louisiana Republican, has introduced the Drug Free Families
Act of 2011, which would require all 50 states to drug-test
welfare applicants. (See photos inside Colorado's marijuana
industry.)

And the focus isn't even limited to welfare. In July, Indiana
adopted drug tests for participants in a state job-training program.
An Ohio state senator, Tim Grendell, recently said he plans to
introduce a bill to require the unemployed to take a drug test
before they receive unemployment benefits.
end excerpt

He invited two families. 30 hungry uninvited guests came to his house.

re Hurricane Katrina 2005

http://tinyurl.com/3k66zzs
This nice man told two good friends that they and
their families could come at his house to avoid
Hurricane Katrina. They told their good friends.
More than thirty people threw themselves on his
stored foods with glad cries and ate it all in two days.

Dept of Rescued Orphaned and Abandoned Childen

As Wind in Dry Grass by H. Grant Llewellyn
excerpt
"The Dept of Rescued Orphaned and Abandoned children was a
hastily erected quonset hut with an unloading ramp
at the front and a large enclosed playground, with
twelve foot chainlink fences topped with razor wire.
At any time twenty or thirty or three children could
be seen wandering around inside their playground, much like
prisoners anywhere, staring blankly at the outside world and
waiting fearfully for the attention of their new saviors.
These fortunate children had been rescued from the
incompetent hands of their parents or found wandering
or were simply rounded up for their own good and
transported to Branfords for shipment to the main
processing center at Indianapolis, were they would
be given new lives and new ideas about life by the friendly
folks who brought you eighteen percent unemployment,
the modern education system, the social services
and child welfare agencies, the national debt, the
Iraq war, NAFTA and FDA safety standards, addictive and
lethal pharmaceuticals, biological warfare, and secret
prison camps for political dissidents. In Brantford,
dedicated DROAC administrators paid a bounty of MREs, beer
and various other commodities to anyone who rescued
any children from any circumstances anywhere by any means
at any time. Once a week a train would arrive from
Indianapolis and several large-boned lesbians and
adenoidal Boy Scout leaders would clump down from
the steps and with a Catholic solemnity, usher the little
darlings, strictly separated by gender into the various
compartments of the train for their field trip to the
city. There, they would be thoroughly transformed
into new citizens without prejudice, without cultural bias
or gender inclinations or religious propensities or racial identity
or family loyalty, but with an obdurate belief in this new
world and a perfect understanding of their role in it."
end excerpt

A holster for the tough, smart, superior woman

The girl can draw concealed pistol and fire in under 2 seconds.

http://tinyurl.com/3g6es8b

Without which life may be short but grim

Rifle butt pouch.
-100 rounds 22LR Remington Subsonic,
-an extra rifle magazine,
-two bottles water pills,
-a penny to adjust scope,
-Allen wrench for scope mount screws.
-40 feet 50 lb test braided Spiderwire and four fishhooks
-a 2x3 fresnel lens
-Gerber utility knife and two blades
http://tinyurl.com/3qdocwv
-a thong and ten patches
The thong has 8" bead chain on end, a bowline at other end,
a bowline 8" from the end. Place a patch in loop sticking
through bowline. The thong comes taut and holds patch securely.
If the patch sticks, use bowline on the end to pull it out
backwards. Not good to break the thong and leave a patch
in the bore.
Two black cable ties secure the pouch to my
Marlin 25N 22LR rifle.
http://sailing.about.com/od/learntosail/ss/howtobowline.htm

Take-down 22LR rifles

Some praise the compact AR-7 ( 16" barrel) 18" OAL stowed in buttstock,
and the Marlin Papoose ( 16.25" barrel) that fits in 24" case.
AR-7 http://tinyurl.com/3gg8sg6
Papoose http://tinyurl.com/3mqad2h

How compact do you want?
Bolt action 22LR Marlin model 725 is 41" OAL.
Barrelled action 28-1/2". Stock 29".
To make a quick takedown version: Omit rear
assembly screw at forward end of trigger guard.
Weld or otherwise secure a 3" wide washer to the forward
assembly screw that secures barreled action to the stock.

How far away can enemies and human predators hear the
report of 22LR high velocity?
How far away can they hear the report of 22LR subsonic?

re CCI 22 CB Longs (29 gr bullet 720 fps 33 ft lb)
Survival Guns by Mel Tappan page 177 quote " In a barrel of
22" or longer the CB cap is almost totally silent. At a distance of
8 feet from the muzzle of my 24" Anschutz, the sound level from
firing was only 9 db, and at 15 feet was totally inaudible. Not
only does this lack of noise make the CCI long CB caps desireable
for indoor or backyard target practice, it makes them virtually
a necessity for survival use should you ever need to do some
shooting without attracting attention or alarming game in the
neighborhood."
Remington subsonic 22LR 38 gr @ 1050 93 ft lb is very little
louder than the CB. Please see http://tinyurl.com/42rtuyx

I finished reading As Wind in Dry Grass

I just finished reading As Wind In Dry Grass.
It is the sort of book you read again later.
http://www.thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=29106.0
It is a great read of a USA destroyed by enemies in
government, terrorist bombers, disease, ghetto criminals
and UN peacekeepers from third world shitholes
confiscating food from homes.
It was no surprise when one woman refugee
remarked that every woman she met had been raped.
Albert Smythe wants nothing more than to kill the enemy.
I like it as well as Unintended Consequences,
Matt Bracken's Enemies trilogy, Neither Predator nor Prey,
and The Black Arrow.

Unintended Consequences by John Ross http://tinyurl.com/3bxqdbd
Matt Bracken's Enemies trilogy http://tinyurl.com/3lqx97b
Neither Predator nor Prey http://tinyurl.com/3dtvn9y
The Black Arrow http://tinyurl.com/3gl8slc

As Wind in Dry Grass

You may read eleven pages of
As Wind in Dry Grass by H. Grant Llewellyn
http://tinyurl.com/3bjvswp

Editorial Reviews
Product Description
Albert Smythe just wants to be left alone on his twenty-nine
acres. An eccentric, unsociable man who many in the town
of Provost, IN., view with a mixture of suspicion and contempt,
he has dedicated his life to becoming self-sufficient. But in a
surprise attack that even dwarfs 911 in its consequences,
terrorists - maybe domestic, maybe foreign - shut down the
food delivery system to the cities, throwing the country into
chaos. Within thirty-six hours, the cities are in flames and
within a week, Martial Law has been declared. UN troops are
called in to assist the beleaguered American military restore
order; but many soldiers refuse to kill and imprison their fellow
citizens. When a mutating virus begins to wipe out everyone,
civil war is inevitable. Albert would have been prepared to
stay out of it, to remain on his farm and milk his goats and
tinker in his garage. But the system can deal with anything,
except a man who chooses to be left alone. But once awakened
from his hermetic existence, Albert Smythe, the non-entity,
the invisible man, becomes their most terrible enemy.

Will congress cut welfare as well as military pay?

Will congress cut welfare as well as military pay?
1.
$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare
to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify http://tinyurl.com/3f6ypob
2.
$22 Billion dollars a year is spent on food
assistance programs such as food stamps,
WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify
at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

3.
$2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on
Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.HTML

4.
$12 Billion dollars a year is spent on
primary and secondary school education
for children here illegally and they
cannot speak a word of English!
Verify
at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt....0.HTML

5.
$17 Billion dollars a year is spent for
education for the American-born
children of illegal aliens, known as
anchor babies.
Verify http://tinyurl.com/3d2p3mh

6.
$3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to
incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/%20TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt.01.HTML

7.
30% percent of all Federal Prison
inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.CNN..com/TRANscriptS/0604/01/ldt..01.HTML

8.
$90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on
illegal aliens for Welfare & social
services by the American taxpayers.
Verify
at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.HTML
9..
$200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed
American wages are caused by the illegal
aliens.
Verify http://tinyurl.com/3pa8rsg

10.
In 2006, illegal aliens sent home
$45 BILLION in remittances to their
countries of origin.
Verify http://tinyurl.com/3cpbqqe

The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS

No more 20 year military retirement?

No More Retiring at 20 Years? July 26, 2011 Stars and Stripes A sweeping new plan to overhaul the Pentagon’s retirement system would give some benefits to all troops and phase out the 20-year cliff vesting system that has defined military careers for generations... Stars and Stripes Website http://tinyurl.com/3uvt8o8

Dakota Fire Pit

In a SERE scenario, as were the father and son in
The Road by Cormack McCarthy, it would be
wise to use a Dakota Fire Pit for cooking and warmth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aUCcdUAbN0&NR=1

video of a Dakota Fire Pit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz9J7La6WXQ

file:///c:/Users/don/Downloads/DAKOTA%20FIRE%20PIT%20PICTURES.htm

The Garand is almost as good as a real rifle, he says

Re Survivalblog.com
The Garand is almost as good as a real rifle
http://tinyurl.com/449fcvu

I can teach Mr Williamson to load without hurting
himself, and to catch a partial clip in his hand. He
will never love the Garand as I do. On the worst
days of my life she never failed me.
To load...
-lock bolt open
-with edge of right hand against bolt operating
handle press a clip of 8 down into the receiver.
Allow bolt to come forward an inch or so, then
smartly remove right hand and allow bolt to go
forward and chamber a round.
To recover a partial clip ....
-with right hand hold bolt open
-place left hand palm down over receiver
-press clip release with left thumb and catch the
emerging partial clip in left hand.
To carry safely and discreetly, but ready for use.
-Press down on top round of a clip of seven and
allow bolt to close on empty chamber
-Remove barreled action from stock.
-Place rifle in a duffel bag, for example.
It takes only seconds to assemble rifle, cycle the
bolt to chamber a round and be ready to defend
yourself.

This video explains the Garand.
http://tinyurl.com/3wqxp5u

July 1 '11 Wyoming does not require permit for CCW

http://www.survivalblog.com/2011/07/notes_from_jwr_390.html

By James Wesley, Rawles on July 1, 2011 1:01 AM

Hooray! Effective today, July 1, 2011, Wyoming

will no longer require permits for concealed carry

of firearms. Wyoming now joins Vermont, Arizona,

and Alaska in recognizing the Constitutional right

to unrestricted carry, both openly and concealed,

without any permit. "Senate Bill 47 amends

Wyoming Revised Statute 6-8-104 to allow anyone

who has lived in the state of Wyoming for six

months or more, and who meets the other require-

ments of the older concealed carry law (excluding

the requirement that an individual demonstrate

proficiency with a firearm) to carry a concealed

weapon, without applying for or obtaining a permit."

(more .....)

Executive Order 13575

NEW EXECUTIVE ORDER –
AGENDA 21 OBAMA’S RURAL COUNCIL

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/DCPD-201100431/pdf/DCPD-201100431.pdf -

On June 9, 2011, an Executive Order established the
White House Rural Council with 25 executive branch
departments including Defense, Justice, Homeland
Security, National Drug Control, Environmental
Quality, Labor, Commerce, Interior, EPA, Housing,
Health, Education to name just a few.

The order covers 16% of the American population
who lives in rural counties because they “supply
our food, fiber, and energy, safeguard our natural
resources, and are essential in the development of
science and innovation.” It ensures Rural America
will participate in Agenda 21 goals of Globalization.
The ICLEI non-governmental UN organization
gets a partner to reach into Rural America.
SUMMARY OF THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER:
1. Federal Control of Rural American Resources
(Food, Health, Energy, Education/Schools,
Property, Water and Lives).
2. Increased Federal Regulation through Executive
Order (Legislation from the Oval office)
3. More Regulation of Food production
4. More Regulation of Land use
5. Agenda 21 implementation accelerates in
Rural America
6. Implementation of Cap and Trade
7. No definitions of what “Rural America” is.
Matter of fact, no definitions at all.
8. More Lawmaking through Regulation (State and Local levels)
9. More State/County Control over your city/town due to grant money distribution
10. Less Local participation due to Regionalization
11. More Federal Jobs funded at Tax Payer Expense
12. Rights Issues: Your Voice. You can not “Un-elect”
appointed committee members. You can not
contact your elected representative on an issue
because this is legislation through committee
regulation. (Strings attached to all that tax payer
funded grant money)Under pretenses that are false
(based on past statements, actions and performance),
the Federal Government is attacking the United
States using Agenda 21, ICLEI tactics but it is much
more direct this time. The actions are simple and the
results – measured but disastrous.
EVERYONE IN THIS NATION NEEDS TO KNOW THIS
This is similar to the Castro’s Agrarian Reform,
but goes beyond.

Fighting a flash mob

http://tinyurl.com/3mckjky

SUAREZ INTERNATIONAL - ONE SOURCE TACTICAL

FIGHTING A FLASH MOB COLUMBIA, SC (WIS) - All eight suspects are in custody after a brutal attack in Five Points early Monday morning which left the teenage victim in critical condition, according to Columbia police. CHICAGO, IL (WLS) -- The recent series of mob-style attacks on Chicago's Near North Side mark the first major hurdles facing Mayor Rahm Emanuel and Chicago's new police superi ntendent Garry McCarthy. The latest attack happened Tuesday night. A witness tells WGN 15-20 teens beat and robbed two people at Chicago and Wabash AKRON, OH -- Out of nowhere, the six were attacked by dozens of teenage boys, who shouted ''This is our world'' and ''This is a black world'' as they confronted Marshall and his family. NO. VIRGINIA -- Three people were beaten by mobs in Northern Virginia in two separate incidents that occurred within five minutes of each other on Saturday night, authorities said. These events have consumed the discussion at most self- defense focused websites in the last few weeks. Accompanying the discussion is the usual hand wringing regarding what to do if one is beset by a gang of thugs bent on your destruction. Well, I have my views on this which will no doubt shock the senses of the Doodley Doo Rights of the gun world. READ MORE....

Obama pushing for illegals to vote

http://tinyurl.com/6cxg6ac

Tuesday, June 7, 2011
Press Release
For immediate Release
Contact: Amy Rezzonico (602) 542-8019
www.AZAG.gov

Horne Blasts Obama Administration for Pushing for Illegals to Vote

PHOENIX (Tuesday, June 7, 2011) -- Arizona Attorney General Tom Horne today blasted the Obama Administration for filing a late amicus brief in the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals that would push for the ability for illegal immigrants to vote.

In the Gonzalez v State case, a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit ruled that Arizona could not require persons registering to vote to provide proof of citizenship. The Ninth Circuit has granted en banc review and Attorney General Horne will personally be arguing the case before an eleven-judge panel on June 21, 2011. Late Friday afternoon, the Obama Administration filed a late, eleventh-hour amicus brief arguing that Arizona should not be able to request information to check if applicants wanting to vote are citizens.

Horne stated: “First, the Obama Administration fails to do its job on the border. Then it sues Arizona to prevent us from helping to fight illegal immigration. Then it tries to create a false sense of complacency by arguing that the border is safe, when it isn’t. Now it argues that persons should be able to register to vote without providing adequate information enabling verification of citizenship, thus enabling illegal aliens to register to vote. This is contrary to the interests of the people of the United State of America.”

Gun Groups File Lawsuit - Montana Firearms Freedom Act

Re: Gun Groups File Lawsuit - Montana Firearms Freedom Act « Reply #29 on: Today at 12:42:39 PM »

http://tinyurl.com/3mrpzvw
Fwd: Final Briefs Filed- MSSA v. Holder - Analysis

Dear MSSA Friends,

The last briefs of those supporting our side of MSSA v. Holder have been filed with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Those include the amici Goldwater Institute (joined by the CATO Institute), Gun Owners Foundation (joined by the U.S. Justice Foundation), and the State of Montana. These additional briefs should soon be posted to and available to peruse at:
http://firearmsfreedomact.com/montana-lawsuit-updates/

Next, the U.S. DoJ (Holder) will submit its reply brief, rebutting arguments made in Appellants' (MSSA, SAF and myself) Principle Brief, and the briefs of various supporting amici (friends of us or of the Court). Then, any amici may submit briefs supporting the U.S. position (the Brady Center for Whatever submitted an opposing brief at the District Court rehashing their standard, anti-gun rhetoric). Then, Appellants (us again) will have the opportunity to submit a reply brief, rebutting arguments made by the U.S.

The case on appeal will then be assigned to a three-judge panel of the Ninth Circuit. The Ninth is the busiest federal appeals court in the U.S., and simply doesn't have the time or resources to hear cases en banc (full court). Oral argument may or may not be requested by the Court. The decision of this three-judge panel will carry the full weight of a Ninth Circuit decision, although a motion for en banc review of the three-judge panel decision would then be ripe and might be a possibility down the road.

Remember, the purpose of MSSA v. Holder is to validate the principles of the Montana Firearms Freedom Act, and by doing so to BOTH breathe effective life back into the Ninth and Tenth Amendments AND to roll back federal power claimed under the guise of regulating "commerce" "among the several states" (the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution) - generally to set precedent for states' rights and state sovereignty.

What can the Ninth Circuit do with MSSA v. Holder? There are many options. They can remand back to the District Court for an actual trial on the merits of the case (the case was dismissed by the District Court prior to trial, which dismissal is now the subject of the appeal to the Ninth). They can uphold the dismissal, upon which we would have the alternatives of moving for an en banc review or of appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court (where we actually need to get with this lawsuit). The Ninth could give us a win on merit while upholding our standing and jurisdiction (unlikely, but in which the U.S. would probably appeal to the USSC). The Ninth could also give us a partial win and partial loss, while also recognizing that we have standing and jurisdiction. While there is absolutely no way to actually predict what the Ninth will do with MSSA v. Holder, the two most likely options are probably to either uphold the District Court's dismissal, or to reverse the District Court's dismissal and remand the case to the District Court for actual trial.

Regardless, it's a fascinating exercise in liberty, and will (has already) ratchet up the national dialog about the import of the Tenth Amendment.

Stay tuned ... "May you live in interesting times." (Old Chinese curse.)

Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
http://www.mtssa.org
author, Gun Laws of Montana
http://www.mtpublish.com

Federal judge prohibits prayer at Texas graduation ceremony

A federal judge has ordered a Texas school district to
prohibit public prayer at a high school graduation
ceremony.

Chief U.S. District Judge Fred Biery’s order against
the Medina Valley Independent School District also
forbids students from using specific religious words
including “prayer” and “amen.”

The ruling was in response to a lawsuit filed by Christa
and Danny Schultz. Their son is among those scheduled
to participate in Saturday’s graduation ceremony. The
judge declared that the Schultz family and their son
would “suffer irreparable harm” if anyone prayed at
the ceremony….

there is more ............

http://keepitsimplesurvival.wordpress.com/

It does not matter if our kids are murdered on campus.

College students, who have a Texas CHL, do not
need to be armed on campus to defend themselves.
If they did Gov Rick Perry would already have
signed the Guns on Campus law.
A psycho may swagger onto the gunfree campus and
shoot twenty or thirty cringing victims, but it is not
important. If you don't believe me ask Governor Rick
Perry, Rep James White, Sen Nichols, and others who
allowed the bill to die in committee.
By the way, I hear that Rick Perry wants to run for President.
He needs your vote.

TSA searching high school students at prom

http://current.com/news/93240662_tsa-official-to-oversee-search-and-grope-at-santa-fe-high-school-prom.htm

Posted at: 05/20/2011 10:46 PM | Updated at: 05/20/2011 11:13 PM
By: Heather Mills, KOB Eyewitness News 4

Saturday night, a certified TSA official will be at the Santa Fe High School prom to oversee student searches.

This all comes after two Capital High School students, sisters, filed a lawsuit saying they were groped by a security agent at Capital High School's prom last month. On Friday, the court ordered Santa Fe Public Schools and the security company ASI to provide at least one TSA certified person at the Santa Fe High School prom and the Capital High School graduation.

The restraining order also spells out the specific ways security can perform searches. It says a pat-down is only to be used if there are reasonable grounds and that pat-downs should not be used as a first approach for every student.

KOB Eyewitness News 4 talked to one of the sisters suing the district earlier this week. Candice Herrera said, "She grabbed my breast and shook the inner part of my bra and shook it and then picked up the front of my dress to mid thigh and she was patting down my bare legs."

Capital's Principal told us she was standing right there when students were searched and doesn't remember any students complaining about the pat downs.

Meanwhile, Santa Fe Public Schools says it's happy to comply with the Federal Court's decision, saying, student safety is a priority.

Tried by 12 or carried by 6?

If a teacher or student illegally carries a gun onto campus
to defend himself he may go to prison for years.

Any psycho is welcome to swagger onto a campus
and kill as many as he wishes. Gov Perry and the
Texas legislators don't care.

2011 session ends Friday May 30. The bill is stalled in
committee. There will be no legal CCW on campus.

Gutless, stupid Texas voters will reelect Rick Perry
and the other liars time and after time until they
retire with fat pensions.

I am disgusted.

MT Gov vetoed permitless carry

Gov Schweitzer said he is pro-gun.
He vetoed a bunch of gun bills.

Pro-gun Gov of MT vetoed gun bills http://www.thementalmilitia.com/forums/index.php?topic=28590.0 Here is his reasoning, if that is the word http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2011/AmdHtmH/HB0271GovVeto.pdf

Montana: Permitless Carry on the Governor’s Desk

FYI

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=6722
Montana: Permitless Carry on the Governor’s Desk

Wednesday, May 04, 2011
Please Contact Governor Schweitzer Today!

House Bill 271, the permitless carry bill, would amend existing
state law requiring a person to obtain a concealed weapon
permit in order to discreetly carry a firearm for self-protection
within city limits in Montana. HB 271 simply says that the
prohibition on concealed carry does not apply to “a person who
is eligible to possess a handgun under state or federal law.”
HB 271 passed in the House on April 12 by a 69 to 29 vote and
in the Senate on April 28 by a 29 to 21 vote. HB 271 is now
awaiting action by Governor Brian Schweitzer.

Existing Montana law already allows any law-abiding citizen
who can legally possess a handgun to carry it concealed, without
a permit, anywhere outside city limits. So, no carry permit is
currently required for law-abiding citizens in over 99% of the state.
It makes no sense to allow them to carry concealed without a
permit on one side of the line but not the other! Law-abiding
citizens do not suddenly turn into criminals when they cross
the arbitrary boundary into a city. Additionally, law-abiding
citizens are authorized to carry a firearm openly, either loaded
or unloaded, anywhere in the state, including within city limits.

The difference between a firearm carried openly and a firearm
carried concealed can be as insignificant as the donning of a coat.
It really makes no sense to require a law-abiding citizen to pay
a fee, endure a relatively significant bureaucratic process, be
subjected to fingerprinting, obtain the government’s permission
and be added to a government-maintained list of firearm owners
simply so they can wear a coat.

Please contact Governor Schweitzer today and respectfully urge
him to sign House Bill 271 into law! The Governor can be
contacted by calling (406) 444-3111. You can also send him an
e-mail at brianschweitzer@mt.gov or leave a comment for
Governor Schweitzer online by clicking here.

Thanks to everyone who communicated with their legislators
over these last few months. Your efforts truly make the
difference in passing pro-gun bills through the legislative process!



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Surprise! Texas guns on campus bill stalled

http://www.kcbd.com/story/14567100/guns-on-campus-bill-stalls-in-texas-senate

Guns on campus bill stalls in Texas Senate
Posted: May 03, 2011 9:13 PM CDT Updated:
May 04, 2011 10:13 AM CDT
By Ben Lawson - bio | email
Video Gallery
Guns on campus bill stalls in Texas Senate
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AUSTIN, TX (KCBD) -

A bill that would allow concealed handguns in public
university classrooms stalled again Tuesday.

State Senators approved tacking the issue onto another
bill that would give schools more flexibility to deal with
budget cuts, but the author of that bill, Senator Judith
Zaffirini of Laredo, opposes the gun measure.

Zaffirini pulled her bill from further consideration and
vowed to let it die so the gun measure can't move forward.

Copyright 2011 KCBD. All rights reserved. The Associated
Press contributed to this report.

TEXAS HB 2807 re unlawful possession of a semiautomatic assault weapon for anyone under the age of 21.

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=110&t=43041

HB 2807 The Texas Assault Weapons Ban Bill:

To wit:

HB 2807 will be heard in House Committee on Criminal Jurisprudence on Tuesday, April 26^th.

HB 2807 relates to the unlawful possession of a semiautomatic assault weapon. The prohibition is for anyone under the age of 21. The bill includes a list of features similar to the congressional definition of an assault weapon: detachable magazine, folding or telescoping stock, pistol grip, bayonet mount, flash suppressor or threaded barrel, or grenade launcher; however, it goes further.

Any semiautomatic rifle with two or more of the listed features is prohibited but if that semiautomatic rifle is a copy of an automatic firearm, only one feature is needed to make the gun off-limits to anyone under the specified age. You might be able to vote but you wouldn't be able to touch this type of firearm in Texas, should HB 2807 pass.

The bill isn't limited to assault-rifles as assault-style handguns are included and defined separately.

Section (b) of the bill creates a Class A misdemeanor for anyone younger than 21 to possess a firearm of this type and creates an offense if a person sells, rents, leases, loans, or gives such a weapon to anyone knowing the firearm will be delivered to a person younger than 21. Under this bill you could share your rifle or handgun with a friend or relative at the range and be in violation of the law.

HB 2807 was filed by State Rep. Lon Burnam (D-Fort Worth). It is a very bad bill and should be voted down in committee.

Since his election to the Texas House in 1997, Rep. Burnam has filed one or two anti-gun, anti-youth bills in every session but two, 2007 and 2009. His earlier versions included all firearms, rifle or shotgun, and defense to prosecution required that the young person, under 17, be with their parent or guardian. In 2005, 4-H Shooting Sports competitors as young as ten came to the Capitol and testified in committee to successfully stop Rep. Burnam's bill.

Obviously Rep. Burnam's not through, as HB 2807 makes no allowance for TSRA high-power youth shooters, their families or their coaches.

Finally HB 2807 is an insult to Texans serving in the military, trained to use and carry automatic weapons in war, but would be criminalized in their home-state for touching a semiautomatic firearm they can legally purchase and possess under federal law.

HB 2807 should serve as a reminder of the mischief gun-bigots intend to cause to your rights and those of your children and grandchildren.

Call or email the House Committee on Criminal Jurisprudence and urge them to vote NO on HB 2807.

What are the ninnies, wussies, pussies and geldings in Texas legislature doing?

What are the ninnies, wussies, pussies and geldings
in Texas legislature doing? They have not passed
CCW on campus law for the same reason that steers
do not make baby cows. 2011 session ends May 30.

My emails to Gov Perry and Rep James White were
not answered. I got a reply from the office State
Sen Robert Nichols alleging that Sen Nichols will
keep my views in mind when he votes. I was so thrilled
I wet my pants.
No elected official -- not even Governor Rick Perry
who shoots from the hip and slays coyotes before
breakfast -- has guts enough to say if they will
vote YES or NO on CCW on campus.

http://akeyboardanda45.blogspot.com/2009/04/concealed-carry-on-college-campus-texas.html

100 million arabs to be brought to US to live??

Dr David Manning interviews Avi Lipkin This is a very interesting 25 minute Video with Pastor Dr. David Manning. Very insightful about what the Muslims and the Muslim Barack Obama have in store for America. No matter what you believe, I think you would be wise to watch this video ("100 million Arabs to be brought to the U.S. to live!". If true, that must be stopped. Make the time to view this if you are a Christian or a Jew! You can then make your own mind up as to the value of it. http://atlahmedianetwork.org/?p=14401

Am I irritated, upset or angry? No. Why do you ask?

There has been no reply from Governor Perry,
or James White my dist rep.


My reply to April 6 letter from TX state Sen Nichols.

Sir

Are you too gutless to say YES or NO ?

I asked you to vote YES for SB 354 CCW on campus.
I want to arm young adults so they will not be on their
knees begging when a psycho blows their brains out.

Your form letter reply is " I will take your comments
into consideration when I blah blah"....

Look for a job. I won't vote for you.

Vlad

Texas Concealed Carry On Campus Bill in Committee – Bill 354

Do you want your child in college to be legally armed to fight back? Should she cower and beg while the psycho takes aim and blows her brains out like at Va Tech and Fort Hood?
You decide.

http://www.ammoland.com/2011/03/18/texas-concealed-carry-on-campus-bill-in-committee/

Friday, March 18th, 2011 at 9:34 AM
Texas Concealed Carry On Campus Bill in Committee – Bill 354
SB 354 by Wentworth to be heard in Senate Committee.
Texas State Rifle Association

Texas State Rifle Association

Houston, Tx --(Ammoland.com)- On Tuesday, March 22, SB 354 by Senator Jeff Wentworth (R-San Antonio) will be heard in Senate Criminal Justice Committee.

SB 354 will stop colleges and universities from expelling student-CHLs for having their handgun on the property of their college or in their cars. It will also stop colleges and universities from terminating their faculty and staff for the same activity.

SB 354 goes on to remove the criminal penalty and allow CHL students, faculty and staff to have this option of self-defense with them in the buildings. Colleges can regulate storage for resident students and sporting events will still be off-limits.

A similar House companion, HB 750 by Rep. Joe Driver (R-Garland) was heard in House Homeland Security and Public Safety Committee on Wednesday, March 16th, and passed 5-3 along party lines after nearly six hours of testimony.

Other good bills dealing with this issue were laid out and left pending in committee include: HB 86 by Rep. David Simpson(R-Longview), HB 1167 by Rep. Van Taylor (R-Plano), HB 1356 by Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Terrell), another and final variation HB 2178 filed by Rep. Joe Driver (R-Garland). All were bills supported by TSRA.

HB 750 by Driver pushes ahead in the process to allow adult students, faculty, and staff the option of having their licensed, concealed handgun with them in college buildings and with them on the commute between school and home.

Senator Wentworth’s bill, SB 354, is likely to be close behind.

Contact Senate Committee Members

Senate Contact Information Link

Please contact all the State Senator on the list. Thank the members of the committee who are co-authors and urge them all to support Senator Wentworth’s SB 354, Concealed Carry on Campus.

Please be very polite and keep your message short and to the point “I support Senator Wentworth’s SB 354 and concealed carry on campus. I hope you’ll support it in committee and later on the Senate floor. Thank you”

Criminal Justice Committee Members:

* Senator John Whitmire (D) Chairman
* Senator Joan Huffman (R) Vice Chair
* Senator John Carona (R) Co-Author
* Senator Rodney Ellis (D)
* Senator Glenn Hegar, Jr. (R) Co-Author
* Senator Juan “Chuy” Hinojosa (D)
* Senator Dan Patrick (Co-Author)

TSRA and Members
The TSRA is nearly 100 years old, a non-profit, single-issue, non-partisan association. We are the NRA state affiliate but wholly funded by Texans for Texans. We need your membership and continued support.

We are your representation in the Capitol of Texas.
Join, renew, or upgrade your membership today at www.tsra.com or call 512-615-4200.

Our Legislature meets only during odd years. We need to get this done.

Keep the Faith,
Sincerely,
Alice Tripp
Texas State Rifle Association
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Arm teachers and students or stop whining about murders on campus.

Editor local newspaper

Sir

Next time a psycho murders unarmed teachers and students on a Texas campus I can thank B. G. (Hire additional security March 6) and others who whine and rail against selfdefence.

To get a Texas CHL you submit fingerprints, are examined by FBI and DPS, take classroom training; and demonstrate safe gun handling, and accurate shooting on the firing range.

Please don't tell Ms G that thousands of college age men and women in our armed forces have access to fully automatic rifles and ammunition. She might never get to sleep again.

I just have to ask. Would Ms G want a security officer for each student, each twelve students, each fifty students?? How much more taxes is she willing to pay for this?

Maybe the whiners and railers know more than I about guns, and people under stress. I am a retired career 20 year soldier, was a BAR machinegunner in Co B 27th Wolfhounds Korea 1950-51. After military service I worked 9 years as a Corrections Officer in state prisons working directly with felons. Might that be considered stressful?

We need legal CCW on campus. The teachers and students can and should defend themselves in the twenty minutes it takes SWAT to arrive to save the day. ( How many can a psycho shoot?? That US Army Major psychologist Islamic warrior screaming Allaaaaaaaaaah akbar killed 30 and wounded more at Ft Hood. In 2007 a nut murdered 32 at Va Tech.)

Luke 22:36
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take [it], and likewise [his] scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Did Jesus want to hire more security? I don't think so.

Arm them or stop whining .

Vlad

gun billls before Montana legislature

I wish Texas had activists of the caliber of Gary Marbut.


http://tinyurl.com/6dml4oz

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Marbut-MSSA
To: mssa@mtssa.org
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:41 PM
Subject: "Gun bills" in Senate Judiciary Committee


Dear MSSA Friends,

We've had three bills pending before the Senate Judiciary Committee, HB 174 (Suppressors), HB 271 (Permitless Carry) and HB 384 (Prohibited Places). The committee took executive action (discussion, amendments, votes) on all three yesterday.

HB 174. There is still a LOT of misinformation about what suppressors are, how they work and what they do and don't do. The Hollywood version continues to prevail. Misinformation is rampant. One Republican senator voted against HB 174 because of calls stirred up among ranchers by the Montana Stockgrowers Association. These people claim that if HB 174 passes they will have a huge surge in trespass and poaching, problems ranchers would not be able to interdict because they would occur "silently." A Democrat senator asserted that suppressors are perfectly legal to use right now and HB 174 is unneeded, notwithstanding that 87-3-123 makes it a crime to take a suppressor "into the field or forest." Another Democrat who says he is a bowhunter education instructor claimed that it is "unethical" to kill animals "silently" with a suppressor (even after being told that a suppressed hunting rifle still makes a sonic boom of 105 decibels, twice the OSHA safe sound limit. I say again, misinformation is rampant. The Committee tabled HB 174.

HB 271. The Committee passed HB 271 with what I consider a minor amendment. HB 271 would allow a person to carry a concealed weapon (put on a coat - it's about "coat control") inside city limits without a permit if the person is eligible to apply for a permit (non-criminal adult resident with training). The amendment would require the carrier to have proof of training on their person while carrying permitlessly. HB 271 now goes to the Senate floor for Second Reading. Contact your senator and tell him or her you want HB 271 to pass.

HB 384. The Montana "prohibited places" statute, 45-8-328, is a nonsensical, unreasonable law. Although it prohibits concealed carry in a bar (including restaurant with liquor license), bank or public building, it does not affect open carry. So, a person can now legally carry openly in a bar, but may not carry concealed. Also, there is no exemption for cops in 45-8-328, so a detective with a jacket over his gun entering city hall commits a crime if he doesn't remove his coat. HB 384 would exclude from the effect of 45-8-328 anyone with an active CWP, and police officers. However, the Committee tabled HB 384.

We are working on possibilities to resurrect HB 174 and HB 384. I'll paste below my comments about opposition to HB 174.

Gary Marbut, president
Montana Shooting Sports Association
http://www.mtssa.org
author, Gun Laws of Montana
http://www.mtpublish.com
=========================

Suppressor bill, HB 174

There are an unfortunate number of Montanans who have bought into the disingenuous arguments of opponents of HB 174. Let me explain.

Current law and history. Suppressors (incorrectly called "silencers" by those who only know them from the movies) were demonized during the Prohibition Era as being the tools of rum-running gangsters. That's when laws were enacted in Montana to make possession of suppressors illegal. Those laws included making it a felony to even be in the same room with a suppressor, even if it was legally registered with the federal government.

In 1997, MSSA ran a bill to clean up these nonsensical suppressor laws. We left two relevant laws on the books, one to make it a crime to commit a crime with a suppressor (no robbing banks with suppressors), and another to make it a state crime to possess a suppressor NOT registered under federal law.

Still illegal. We missed one. We missed a law in the fish and game section of the Montana law books that makes it a crime in Montana to "take into the field or forest" a suppressor. What does this mean? Who knows, but it's probably imprudent to take a suppressor outside city limits - into a "field or forest." You could be charged with a crime. Not only is it a crime, it is also a "gun crime" for which the FBI could take away your right to possess firearms forever under the federal Brady Law.

HB 174. HB 174 would simply repeal this archaic law that makes it a criminal offense to be "in the field or forest" with a suppressor.

Arguments against HB 174. The arguments against HB 174 are ever so disingenuous. Here are the primary arguments against.

Using suppressors is legal in Montana now - no fix is needed. Wrong. Read the law.

87-3-123. Use of silencers or mufflers on firearms forbidden. A person may not take into a field or forest or have in the person's possession while out hunting any device or mechanism devised to silence, muffle, or minimize the report of any firearms, whether the device or mechanism is operated from or attached to any firearm.

Suppressors are illegal anyway. Wrong. It is perfectly legal to own suppressors under federal law. Yes, a buyer must jump through a LOT of hoops. First you must pay the business selling the suppressor - the full price (most of $1,000), but you cannot take possession of the suppressor yet. Second, you must get a letter of permission from the local sheriff. This includes getting fingerprinted, a mug shot and a criminal records background check. Third, with this material in hand, you can then fill out the application to the BATFE. You send in the application with a check for $200. The BATFE will take about nine months to process the application. Once approved, the BATFE will send you the tax stamp. Only then can you go to the seller and pick your already-paid-for suppressor.

Nobody has suppressors. Wrong. There are LOTS of legally-owned suppressors in Montana. There are probably more than 2,000 people in Montana who have jumped through all the hoops described above to legally own a suppressor.

Suppressors "silence" a hunting rifle just like in the movies. Excuse me? Come back to reality. There are two components to the sound a rifle makes, the muzzle blast and the sonic boom of the bullet flying through the air faster than the speed of sound. Suppressors reduce (NOT "silence") the muzzle blast. Suppressors do absolutely nothing to the sonic boom. At the rifle, the muzzle blast may be louder than the sonic boom for a very high-powered, unsuppressed rifle. However, for anything more than about one hundred yards downrange, the sonic boom is the loudest part of the gunshot sound. The sonic boom is constant throughout the supersonic flight of a bullet, about 1,000 yards for a .308 Winchester. The level of sound from a bullet sonic boom is 150 decibels, twice the amount of sound deemed unsafe by OSHA for a person without hearing protection. This volume of sound emanates from the bullet throughout its supersonic travel and is most of what a person hears from a distant rifle shot.

Hunting with a suppressed rifle is not "ethical." This is an argument made for irrational people. First, will the people making this argument also insist that archery hunting is unethical because it's so quiet? Probably not because such people find no need to be consistent. Okay, the opponents admit, but what about an animal being hit by a silent bullet at a longer distance than an archer can shoot? Isn't that unethical? For the mushy-headed, it's back to Physics 101. Remember that hunting rifle bullets are supersonic, right? That means they go faster than the speed of sound, right? That means that the bullet from EVERY hunting rifle hits the animal before the sound gets to the animal, right? The animal is silently shot before the sound gets there from either a suppressed OR unsuppressed hunting rifle. Okay, the dogmatic opponent admits, but if you miss your shot at the animal, for ethical hunting the animal should hear the sound so it can run away. Back to Physics 101. Remember the sonic boom - 150 decibels - twice that allowed by OSHA without hearing protection? Suppose your shot flies a foot above the elk you shoot at. Are you really arguing that an elk can't hear a 150-decibel sound originating a foot away. Anyone who would make the "ethical" argument about suppressors is certainly challenged, but not by "unethical" suppressors.

Legalizing suppressors will only cause more poaching. Let's get one thing straight for starters. Criminals break the law. That's just what they've chosen to do. Poachers will poach. Okay, say the opponents, but if people are allowed to legally use suppressors they will use them to poach, increasing poaching. Let me see if I get this argument right. A person who is so law abiding that he will wade through a ream of local and federal paperwork, get fingerprinted and photographed, get a letter of permission from his sheriff, pay up to $1,000 for his suppressor, and pay another $200 to the BATFE will then use this precious device to commit a crime that puts his hard-won suppressor AND his ability to possess any firearm at risk. Right.

A rancher won't know if somebody is trespassing and hunting with a suppressor. Back to physics 101. Except near the muzzle of a hunting rifle, most of the noticeable sound from a rifle shot comes from the sonic boom, 150 decibels, unsafe for unprotected hearing according to OSHA. Suppressors only reduce the muzzle blast at the rifle, but do nothing to decrease the sonic boom downrange. There is a zone of about 100 yards surrounding the shooter where the muzzle blast is louder than the sonic boom. Beyond that distance, most of what a rancher hears from a gunshot now is the sonic boom. That would not change with suppressor use. What would change is that if the rancher is within 100 yards of a suppressed rifle upon discharge, the rancher would still be less than 100 yards from a 150-decibel sonic boom. The "rancher won't hear" argument will only make sense to a person totally inexperienced with suppressors (movies only), and who slept through Physics 101 in high school.

Letter

Letter to Governor of Texas,
CC TX state senator and rep
CC editor local paper

Sir

The session ends May 30.

Governor Perry and members of legislature have time to bray
loudly that they are considering CCW on campus, and Texas
firearms freedom act.

They won't do shit, of course. Both bills will die in committee.

It's ok. People are stupid and will vote for them again.

Who do I thank the next time a psycho murders unarmed
teachers and children?

I am disgusted.

Vlad

Obama wants background check for private gun sales

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/03/they
-really-think-they-can-get-away.html

excerpts
......."
“As the president said, we should focus on sound,
effective steps that will keep guns out of the hands
of the criminals, fugitives, people with serious
mental illness, and others who have no business
possessing a gun and who are prohibited by laws
on the books from owning a gun,” Justice Department
spokesman Matthew Miller said. “We will be meeting
with stakeholders on all sides of the issue to discuss
how we can find sensible, intelligent ways to make
the country safer.”..........

"a simple background check for every purchase includes
next to zero burden for law-abiding citizens and can
save countless live,” said Mark Glaze, the executive
director of the coalition of
Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG)." ............


"The principal debate, then, will likely center around the
application of background-check standards to private dealers."

Get that? "Private dealers," as in individuals, as in YOU AND ME.
They are grabbing at the "gun show loophole" again, which is to
say you or I couldn't give an heirloom to our kids or grandkids
without the government's permission IN ADVANCE. It is a grab
to control THE ENTIRE PRIVATE SALE OF FIREARMS. Not
even King George III was so grasping!

etc..........

Ron Paul: Hemp for Victory

For the first time since I began writing about Paul and his movement more than three years ago, he agreed to speak with me over the phone yesterday. The occasion was his desire to talk about his support for legalizing industrial hemp. Hemp, a non-psychoactive variety of cannabis famously grown by the likes of George Washington and promoted in the World War II propaganda film Hemp for Victory, is an envrionmentally-friendly source of fiber and protein. Paul is the author of several hemp legalization bills, the latest of which will be promoted in May during the second annual Hemp History Week.

Rep. Paul spoke with me about why the federal ban on the super-fiber is further evidence of "government stupidity," how liberals and libertarians can cooperate in the budget debate, and his plans for 2012.

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/ron-paul-hemp-legalization